Whatclinic Gastric Sleeve Reviews in Turkey
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The nurse treated me like VIP, from the moment I said okay I’ll come
Tiffany, Turkey
My experience with Bridge Health Travel was nothing short of exceptional. Irem was very helpful, and patient and educated me about the process during the decision making. She treated me like VIP, from the moment I said okay I’ll come. All the way to my departure she has been there every step of the way.
As a solo traveller it was reassuring because she made certain I was always comfortable. I am so happy that I chose to jumpstart my gastric sleeve journey with Bridge Health Travel and I’d most definitely recommend it to others. Sleeved2023.
Couldn't fault them in the slightest
Katie, UK
Fantastic Team! Couldn't fault them in the slightest. The care received was brilliant from arrival to discharge. Would come again in a heartbeat! Thank you so much for changing my life.
I would fully recommend them
Sally, UK
Had a fantastic experience with Bridge travel. Irem was a great support and my surgeon Op. Dr. Eden Can Yardimci was amazing. Visited every day post op to check on me. I would fully recommend them and wouldnt hesitate to use again if needed 5*
I'm so glad I went through with it
Melanie D., UK
Highly recommend!!!! Went for a gastric sleeve, the staff are absolutely lovely, kind and caring. From the minute I arrived everything was amazing, wasn't waiting around everything moved along really fast the care from the staff is incredible. I'm so glad I went through with it.
Their services are comprehensive and well-coordinated, ensuring that patients receive the best poss
Vedat G, US
Bridge Health Travel is an excellent option for individuals seeking medical treatment abroad. Their services are comprehensive and well-coordinated, ensuring that patients receive the best possible care. The team at Bridge Health Travel is highly professional and knowledgeable, and they go above and beyond to make sure their clients feel comfortable and informed throughout the entire process. I would highly recommend Bridge Health Travel to anyone looking for high-quality medical care in a foreign country
The surgeon who did my operation was brilliant
Hayley R, UK
Iram was amazing she took good care off me an helped me with everything. Could contact her an time day/night an she would be there. The surgeon who did my operation was brilliant. Never thought I would be happy with my body an now thanks to him I feel like me again. Would 100% Recommend it. Thank you so much to iram and Dr bora yucel.
I'm home now almost a week post op and I've lost 1 stone - I'm feeling fantastic
Chloe M, UK
Wow, what can I say? I had the best experience thanks to bridge health travel (Irem) everything was discussed before I even got a on a plane. As soon as you get to the medstar hospital Irem will be waiting for you with a smile!! You are admitted straight away and the tests begin (they don't waste any time) after my surgery I was always checked on by the nurses/my surgeon and Irem. Going abroad for surgery scared the life out of me but now that I've experienced it I would 100% recommend and go back again! I'm home now almost a week post op and I've lost 1 stone - I'm feeling fantastic!! Thank you everyone at bridge health travel for helping me be a better and healthier me
She made me feel at ease and was there most of the way to explain what was being said
Millicent N., UK
I was received warmly from the airport in a lovely VIP transfer 5*. I was then taken to the hotel which was clean and comfortable. The driver also picked me up in the morning and handed me over to Irem who I must say was so amazing, she made me feel at ease and was there most of the way to explain what was being said. The ward staff were brilliant and the consultant also paid me a visit prior to the procedure which I found reassuring. I only wish Irem was allowed to come into theatre with me until I was asleep. I had the option to stay in the hospital till my flight that evening but decided to go back to the hotel. I also got some advice from the dietician before my departure but unfortunately, she was unwell for the follow-up call, I was however given all the information I needed. Definitely good value for money and would use them again.
I will not hesitate to recommend you to my circle
Jonathan, UK
Thank you Irem. I live with the dream of the body you gave me and gave me. I didn't expect to get this far in such a short time. I will not hesitate to recommend you to my circle. See you again
So good for value
Leesa, UK
I’m currently 2 weeks post op from a gastric sleeve and had the best experience with bridge health travel - I was helped the whole way through by Irem and really owe her so much for helping change my life! From the very start she was so helpful, supportive and caring! It was a massive reason why I picked this company as I had been whatsapping her for months and months before deciding to go ahead and I’m glad I did.
My experience during my surgery all the way to going home was also very good. The team and surgeon were very skilled and caring, checking on me throughout the day and Irem is always there for any questions or if you need anything.
The rooms were so clean and modern during my stay and it was also very comfortable. If you bring a companion, they also set up a bed next to the hospital bed and 3 meals a day for their everyday which was a very nice gesture.
So good for value! And the team really are the best. Already seeing a steady weight loss 13 days out and Irem gives you all the extra information and medications to go home with so you’re prepared when you get home!
Would recommend using this company
Rosie C., UK
I had the gastric sleeve after have the balloon for a year. Highly recommend. Very thorough with pre and post operation care. Hotel is very clean and professional. Surgeon is English speaking and so is the health care coordinator, they keep in touch with you and help every step of the way. 2 months in and Ive lost 3 stone
Very nice and professional staff
Cora, UK
Very nice and professional staff. I 100% recommend this place if you are looking to get any procedure done.
I like to thank all the staff from nurses, surgeon for making my experience amazing
Tina, UK
I went to Turkey in September 2023 for a Gastric sleeve. I like to thank all the staff from nurses, surgeon for making my experience amazing. Iram went above and beyond nothing was too much trouble for her, I would recommend Bridge Health Travel to anyone.
A professional, respectful and personable human being
Rachel, UK
From start to finish. I have nothing but positive words. Irem has been fantastic. From meeting us at the hospital to waving us goodbye at the hotel. She has made a stressful process so easy.
Dr Belen was fantastic - a professional, respectful and personable human being.
I researched long and hard regarding this operation, and from all the companies that offered this. Bridge Health is the company to use.
I am looking forward to my new way of life - my new diet and within a few months. My new look.
Thank you Bridge Health for everything
Im so happy I went through with this
Georgia F., UK
I am one week post-op, and honestly couldnt have chosen a better company to go with. It made me feel so comfortable and welcome. I was soooo nervous, but they all made me feel so at ease. Irem was amazing, and Im so happy I went through with this. I'm looking forward to my future with thanks to Bridge Health
I really couldn't fault them one bit - Gastric Sleeve
Lou, UK
I have recently been for my gastric sleeve over in Antalya with the Lovely Irem and her team. I really couldn't fault them one bit. everything was so smooth from arriving at the airport to the transfers to the hotel to be looked after by the lovely nurses.
I had no problems Irem explained everything to me and put me at ease. Wouldn't recommend anybody else. Thank you so much again Irem for all that you did for me.
Everyone at the hospital is lovely, and kind and can not do enough
Annie, UK
I spoke to Irem nearly a year before my surgery. She was the first person I had spoken to when I was doing my research that didn't just want to talk money with me. She asked how I was!!! Everyone at the hospital is lovely, and kind and can not do enough. I would advise anyone to use this hospital. Nothing is too much bother. I am 4 months in and 5 stone down. I have dropped from a size 22/24 to a size 12/14 and got my life back. I could not be more happy with the choice I made.
Help me with everything
Michal F, UK
Ok good people. Help me with everything. Recommend for everyone
She talked me through everything and explained everything I needed to know
Kayleigh B, UK
I couldn’t recommend this company enough, I was like any other patient scared and didn’t know what to expect but soon as I got off the plane I was welcomed straight away by a vip taxi that took us to the hospital where I met the amazing Iram, she talked me through everything and explained everything I needed to know.
The hospital itself was so clean we had cleaners come in our room about 4 times a day, also they were amazing with our companion and give them meals 3 times a day. I had abit of complications after surgery where I needed 3 blood transfusions but yet again irem, the surgeon and her team made me feel so at ease and not worried. Day 4 we went to a hotel by vip transfers and the hotel was amazing. Since getting home irem messages me or could ring me anytime I need to ask a question.
Honestly, I couldn’t recommend this company enough but most of all to irem for changing my life
Bariatric Surgery Consultation - Nurses were lovely and polite
Chelsie, UK
The hospital was lovely and clean. Tests were quick and efficient. Nurses were lovely and polite. The surgeon did a brilliant job, make sure you ask all your questions to put yourself at ease. Irem is on hand for you to call if you have any questions! Hotel was lovely too.
The surgeon, the nurses, the staff are very craint - Bariatric Surgery Consultation
Aïcha, France
You can go there with your eyes closed. Even before your arrival Irem is very available to answer ALL your questions! The surgeon, the nurses, the staff are very craint. I am more than happy to have taken the plunge because I was very well surrounded and even since my return to France Irem is still available and helpful
The staff was amazing; nurses, cleaners and even surgeons
Leann W., Turkey
I went to Turkey in September 2023. I had gastric sleeve surgery the day after my arrival, and my surgery went well. The staff was amazing; nurses, cleaners and even surgeons; We should not forget the wonderful coordinators. Irem took care of me from the first minute to the last minute. I did my own research and went to BHT and I am very pleased. They are definitely 10/10.
I would highly recommend this place
G, UK
Best service and care. I would highly recommend this place .and iram was excellent she helped me every step of the way
Defo 5-star
Allison, UK
I would recommend the hospital and also the surgeon, but I couldn't do enough for myself Irem is lovely and will be available 24/7 if I get any more surgery. I would go by Bridge Health Travel as the best ***** defo 5-star.
Hospital staff were friendly and helpful
Rachel, UK
Gastric Sleeve. Bridge Health Travel have the most amazing lady Irem who in my opinion is the heart and soul of Bridge Health Travel. Her customer service is beyond the expected levels. Every question from the first port of contact to continuing support post op is dealt with effectively and quickly.
The surgeon was knowledgeable and checked in several times pre and post op. Hospital staff were friendly and helpful. As a whole I can’t fault my experience. I’m only just over a week post op so far no regrets and glad I used Bridge Health Travel as part of my journey.
What a good experience
Alice, Turkey
I’ve Been my plastic upper eyelid surgery with that clinic! What a good experience! Best surgical team, best after care !! Thank you so much for everything!
I would certainly return and recommend it
Terri, UK
I'm a few days back after having 12 12-month gastric balloon. I went by myself and that was fine as everything was planned very well, pick ups turned up on time each time and Irem took great care of me in the first-class hospital. My first couple of days I felt rough but then quickly got back to feeling like myself by following the eating plan and using the medication provided. I would certainly return and recommend it, now I'm looking forward to the new me.
I was at ease I felt safe and I was taken through the procedure aftercare and life after surgery
Maya, UK
Irem and the staff to the surgeon's were so good and accommodating. I was at ease I felt safe and I was taken through the procedure aftercare and life after surgery.
I'm grateful to them for all their services
Onur C, US
They helped me with everything. They were very attentive and friendly. You definitely should visit them. I'm sure you will love this service. I'm grateful to them for all their services.
She went above and beyond
.., UK
Husband had this surgery in September 2023. I was absolutely terrified with hearing stories of operations going wrong etc. But the Irem showed so much support. She went above and beyond. The hospital staff are amazing such good care overall our experience was excellent I would highly recommend to anyone. Thank you so much Irem
Bariatric Surgery Consultation - Aftercare was amazing
Debbie dunlop, UK
What an amazing experience well looked after. Aftercare was amazing. I'm so grateful for everything you have done for me. Up walking 4 hours after surgery and still doing good 12 days post-op. I would highly recommend this surgeon and Iram.
The company helped me in every process
Lisa T, US
I had an operation. It was so good. The company helped me in every process. I suggest this company
Very helpful coordinator, always advises and helps when there are doubts
Doris, UK
Bariatric Surgery Consultation
At first I was very scared because it was my first surgery. Price was good, care was good. Lots of research before surgery. Very clean hospital (I think the only thing that could be improved are beds for the accompanying person). Very helpful coordinator, always advises and helps when there are doubts. She never hesitated to answer and was always loved. I rate it 5 stars.
I am now home with no residual pain, just getting used to my new diet and tiny tummy
Brooke B, UK
What a fantastic experience.
Upon landing in Antalya we were met by a private transfer driver who drove us in comfort to the hospital (real hospital, not a small clinic). There I met Irem who welcomed myself and husband warmly and spoke excellent English. She answered all questions and was able to calm my nerves entirely. Irem was incredibly knowledgable - with her own nursing experience - so we knew I was in good hands.
In 2 hours of arriving at the (very clean) hospital, I had received a multitude of physical health tests using high-tech equipment - these tests would have taken place over months in the UK so I was impressed!
The facilities were clean, tidy and the staff extremely friendly. Our private en-suite rooms were cleaned regularly, with fresh towels and blankets every day, if not more often. My husband who travelled with me was offered 3 meals per day from the hospital.
I met the surgeon - who performs bariatric surgery solely - who was very friendly and encouraged questions. He explained, with the help of Irem, what was going to happen and how long I would be in surgery etc.
On the day I was taken to surgery, everything went perfectly well. I was monitored by the loveliest nurses very regularly to ensure my post-op condition was good. Nothing was too much trouble, they are so efficient and all procedures were done absolutely as you would see in the UK (just quicker).
I had a 1-2-1 conversation with a dietician who explained my wasting journey post-surgery I’m great detail. I was given a giant bag of vitamins, protein powders, literature regarding my surgery - what to expect etc and a comprehensive copy of my medical notes.
I was taken by private transfer to the hotel, which was lovely in a fabulous location. Myself and husband were very comfortable throughout.
I would recommend this company wholeheartedly. I think there is always the worry about “going abroad” for surgery, but I was so impressed by the efficiency, cleanliness, friendliness and knowledge of the team throughout.
I believe you get more than what you pay for and I am very excited to start my new weight loss journey post-surgery.
I am now home with no residual pain, just getting used to my new diet and tiny tummy.
Thanks all! Really appreciate you x
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The hospital and staff were all amazing
David, UK
What can I say? Bridge Health Travel has been amazing from start to finish! I decided to have a gastric sleeve after a discussion with BHT! I was given all the information possible to make my choice along with tons of no-pressure advice! From the moment I landed in Turkey, I was met at the airport and driven in a private car to the airport where I was greeted by the amazing Iram! We met the surgeon and straight away were at ease! I 100% made the correct choice in Bridge Heath Travel! The hospital and staff were all amazing! The cost of my surgery I feel was extremely good value and would highly recommend Bridge Heath Travel and Iram to anyone thinking of having this type of surgery! I had my op on the 26th of Sept 23 and its now the 5th of December 23 and Ive lost 5stone 5lbs and feel like a completely difference person! Amazing Bridge Heath Travel and Iram.
I would definitely recommend
Jess, UK
I had such an amazing experience with the team from the moment I was picked up from the airport until the day I left! Irem is honestly one of a kind and was so supportive from day one and throughout my gastric balloon procedure. I would definitely recommend.
I was always being checked on and made sure I was comfortable
Kayleigh, UK
Gastric sleeve surgery on the 25th November 2022. Im a 33 year old mother who had 2 travel alone because of child care. Irem was amazing. From start 2 finish as soon as I landed in Turkey I was well looked after. The hospital was spotless and the nurses were amazing. I was never left no longer then 30 minutes on my own. I was always being checked on and made sure I was comfortable. I flew over on Friday and I left on Tuesday. When I first woke up I was very much shocked but I had 2 nurses who didnt leave my side until I had come round and was well alert. I have had no problems at all with my surgery it took a little while for my head 2 catch up with my belly and Irem as answered any messages Ive sent very quickly. My scars are so neat and hardly noticeable now Ive gone from 16 stone 2 11 stone 9 and Im comfortable enough to start to maintain my weight at the moment I dont need any plastic surgery as Im loving my new body. But Im 50/50 about having my boobs done and if I do I will 100% be using this team again. Im even friends with my surgeon on instagram and he always replied 2 my stories or asked me how Im doing !! Honestly Turkey is a big place and many places offer this kind of surgery but Im so glad I went with this company.
I was a solo traveller, but never ever felt alone there
Tracy, UK
I had a gastric sleeve 4 weeks ago today, the level of care I received was above and beyond from the moment I arrived until I was back at home. I was a solo traveller, but never ever felt alone there. Irem and Sasha went out of their way to make me feel at ease and my surgeon Dr Erdem came to visit me every day before and after surgery. If I decide to go back in the future for any plastics I won't hesitate to go back there . I am already over 2 stone lighter since starting my journey.
Absolutely brilliant from start to finish
Gemma, UK
I can’t recommend Bridgehealth enough. Absolutely brilliant from start to finish. Irem is amazing from video calls to making you feel so at ease even 3 mths after surgery checking up on me. I had so many nerves but Irem made my stay so easy. The aftercare is also amazing x
Everything was thoroughly explained at all points, tests were extremely thorough
Natalya, UK
I went to Turkey in September 2023 for gastric sleeve surgery. We were picked up at the airport in a private transfer and taken to the hospital and greeted by the wonderful Irem. The staff were amazing, the nurses and staff at the hospital, the cleaners, the surgeon were all brilliant. Irem took care of me and was there every step of the way, any questions were answered and I felt so at ease. Everything was thoroughly explained at all points, tests were extremely thorough. Thankyou Bridge Health Travel for giving me the best possible service and giving me a new lease of life! X
I love the place is so beautiful and nice
Jose, UK
The staff is so professional and the experience is amazing I recommend it. I love the place is so beautiful and nice.
If I could give my experience of this surgery 10 stars I would.
Paula, UK
I couldnt have asked for any better- from the VIP transfers to the hospital .. the actual surgery .. the care I received from everyone including the nurses. The surgeon checks up on the before and after surgery. Irem was with me the whole way if I needed her - she is a wee gem! The hotel was lovely
. If I could give my experience of this surgery 10 stars I would. Im back home 6 weeks tomorrow and feeling fine!! I didnt even have the gas pain afterwards! I could go on and on about my treatment but honestly, if youre in doubt - do it! Just wish I had sooner.
Would highly recommend and would most definitely go back in the future
Lisa, UK
Travelled for surgery which took place on 16th January 2023, before, on arrival and throughout my stay I was well looked after. Irem was on hand through the whole process, answered any questions or concerns and really went above and beyond to make my experience a pleasant and stress free process. Would highly recommend and would most definitely go back in the future.
Five stars from the beginning to the end of our stay!
Susan, UK
Brilliant stay with Bridge Health Travel from start to finish!!! Five stars ?????????? from the beginning to the end of our stay! I would highly recommend to anyone
Everyone was extremely helpful
Satdeep, UK
Amazed at the level of care and hospitality given by Irem and those at the hospital. Am shocked at how efficient everything was and no time was wasted between the procedures and seeing the Dr. Everyone was extremely helpful and Irem was with us every step of the way and took tremendous care of us. She took care of everything for us. From the endoscopy, colonoscopy, ultrasound, blood tests, and pharmacy visit she was with us every step of the way and even recommended shops near our hotel to purchase food and the diet needed for these procedures. She is a gem. The hospital was immaculate.
I am truly grateful for the work you do, hope you help a lot more people
M.D., UK
I had an unforgettable experience, thank you for your service. They make treatments affordable compared to others. The hospital I got admitted to was extremely pleasant, very clean and spacious, the staff will look after you properly and will care for you. Everything was sorted from airport pick up, doing tests in the lab, follow-up care after surgery and everything. I am truly grateful for the work you do, hope you help a lot more people
Highly recommend
P Howe, UK
Had surgery 10th October was very nervous flying out to have it done but the experience was ?????? everyone was so kind and helpful from being picked up from airport to my return. So many checks bloods/scans ect. Iran was so lovely and is there for u at any time. Highly recommend
My experience has been excellent
Kimberley B, UK
What can I say absolutely excellent care from enquiry to the aftercare and support. Irem the care co ordinator saw the whole process through from the very start . Arrived and was collected from the airport and met in person at the hospital by Irem pre operative tests very through bloods, ultrasound, X-ray, echocardiogram, only then cleared for surgery. Irem was there supporting at every step even escorting me to surgery and was there when I returned to my room. Hospital was spotless and medical staff very competent and skilled. Surgeon was available to answer questions and reassure. Nutrition support ongoing. My experience has been excellent.
The hospital is immaculate and the surgeon was very helpful with aftercare
Samantha W., UK
I would definitely recommend this service. The hospital is immaculate and the surgeon was very helpful with aftercare. Irem is a godsend.
The standard of care we received from the clinical team was fantastic
Lea J., Turkey
Gastric Sleeve, my partner had the procedure, organised by the lovely Irem at Bridge Health Travel. We chose this clinic after a work colleague told me about her experience from procedure & high standard of care she got from making contact with Irem to travelling & transfer to hospital for the operation & ongoing aftercare. My colleague passed on my number to the host- Irem who made contact via WhatsApp- there was no hard-sell or endless messages- we were able to get back to Irem in our own time with no pressure which was great. Irem was keen to answer any questions we had over the procedure & would quickly reply, which helped us to make an informed choice in our own time. After considering the options of procedure in UK vs abroad, we decided to choose Bridge Health Travel. From when we made decision, Irems approach is professional & well organised-assisting with travel plans (best flight times for procedure) around our scheduled leave and recovery. Still many more questions to Irem who is fantastic & nothing a silly question. Our flights from the UK were delayed by over 4hrs & we kept Irem informed of our flight number & updated, and when we landed messaged her & our transfer was ready waiting for us by time we got through border-control. Polite, professional driver in luxurious van collected us & brought us straight to private clinic where Irem met us at foyer. Irem oversaw paperwork needed to check-in and straight to en-suite room, met nurses & bloods done. The clinic was clean, nurses were attentive- even with language barrier it was professional & well-organised. Irem was perfect host with excellent English skills between us & clinical team. Next morning, my partner met their surgeon- had full medical report completed with 3 different specialist consultants and was consulted by internal medical consultant (all with Irem supporting translation) before green light for surgery that afternoon. We met surgeon again prior to surgery, for any questions. I had many more questions for Irem while partner was in surgery & I was really anxious, she is so caring and has actually gone through this procedure herself that I was reassured by her. Post-surgery recovery was patient-focused with getting comfortable & pain relief, nurses were precise & knew exactly what they needed to get done. Alongside this Irem was there to support & reassure me when I was upset(Id never experienced my partner in hospital before). Even after Irem left to go home (I kept her quite late) she messaged me & said to stay in touch if I needed to speak to her again. The standard of care we received from the clinical team was fantastic over the 5days/4nights, absolutely outstanding. The private UK option would have had my partner in only for one day then home. After the whole experience; the professionalism, teamwork & dedication of the clinical team my partner would not have got this level of care in UK which I feel was necessary for procedure & post-op recovery. House-keeping staff visited room 3x per day, cleaned room & en-suite & made-up/put away companion bed am & pm. Companion meals were provided but if you dont like it then Irem can organise take-out. Dietician visited Irem for post-surgery nutrition instructions & supplies including powders & vitamins. Again lots of questions for dietician over food-groups & shift-patterns. Aftercare was available online for a further 12 months included in booking. To be fair I hadnt expected the level & standard of care after reading & hearing stories of surgery abroad; how wrong we were - Im so glad we chose to use Bridge Health Clinic. I would highly recommend Bridge Health clinic to family, friends & other people considering surgery abroad, contact Irem who genuinely cares about the people & family members in her care, she is an excellent host. Big thanks to the nursing staff on floor 5, youre all awesomethank-you for your care
Fantastic and been very helpful in explaining everything
Donna D., UK
Ive just returned in the last week from having gastric sleeve surgery. I originally planned to have a mini bypass but the surgeon was amazing and after looking at blood tests etc decided I didnt need that and the sleeve would be fine. Irem has been fantastic and been very helpful in explaining everything, arranging the surgery and also my hotel for afterwards before going home. I ended up having the sleeve surgery and my gallbladder out as I had stones which were luckily picked up by scans at the hospital. Irem, the surgeon and all the nurses were so helpful and kind and truly looked after me as I were on my own. Thank you
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£ 1580£ 1450GASTRIC BALLOON PROCEDURE PACKAGE
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- The balloon is placed via endoscopy, the procedure takes 15-20 minutes and you are discharged after 2-3 hours. It is enough to stay here for 1 night.
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£ 2750£ 2550GASTRIC SLEEVE PACKAGE
GASTRIC SLEEVE PACKAGE COST TURKEY / ANTALYA
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